Shanna is my favorite character now. 😀
And… if the whole point of travelling to the past is to change the timeline and to avoid the “bad day” this is a step in the right direction.
I’m worried about Will though…
I’d be pretty upset too, if time travellers from the future told me my spouse was going to die. She’s kneejerking, and Marc’s balls happen to be in the way of her knee.
In the last comic I thought she might be acting to see if Marc was the traitor. If she is acting here she should win an academy award.
I don’t think this will necessarily change the time-line, however. Lots of stuff can happen between now and then. Also, love and hate are both attractive emotions and her passionate response here shows she DOES have strong feelings for Marc.
Part of me wonders if the intervention of the time-travellers coming back to stop their wrecked future is what CAUSES it in the first place. A sort of circular causal loop. These events would have happened differently without their intervention and they seem to be driving at least some people apart, not together.
Perhaps this causes the incident that Marc felt so guilty about it.
Despite what they show in the movies, this is the type of incident that destroys unit cohesion. In the military, people get sidelined for a lot of reasons that seems stupid to us until you realize that you don’t want the soldier who is supposed to be on Overwatch have only half his mind on his job because something has happened in their personal life. You also don’t want your officers to be excused for infractions that the soldiers under them to be punished.
In essence, you don’t want your soldiers to have any reason not to trust the other with their back or put disruptive thoughts/doubts in their mind, especially before a mission. That’s what makes them hesitate for that crucial second.
For someone who is trying to avoid that future, whether Hilda is manipulating her or not, Shanna is doing her best to sabotage Aegis. You don’t tell people that they’re under suspicion until you’re ready to act on it. You don’t pop people in the face for personal reasons and expect them to cover your back. And you DON”T visibly crack up in front of the rest of the team.
So, now their best fighter is distrustful of command, their best shooter is resentful, plus Di and Bax have got to be questioning her stability. I’m thinking she might want to just round out the act by setting everyone’s blasters to explode in their hands at this point.
@Bunny
No, the mechanics of time travel are firmly established in the Faansiverse. Traveling through time creates a new timeline. By those rules, traveling through time literally cannot create the circumstances that cause you to travel through time.
@Pyre
He doesn’t look guilty. He doesn’t even have the good sense to look abashed! He looks… belligerent. Like, “Hmph, I put myself out there and this is the response I get? B!*&h.” This is definitely a changed timeline now.
Stevarious, I have to disagree. We know travelling through time CAN cause a new timeline. That mean it HAS to. But yes, you’re right that the precedent is not established.
@Stevarious: No, I’m referring to the incident that the future people described him as feeling guilty about. Maybe this confrontation with Shanna causes him to be distracted in the upcoming encounter with The Hand of Justice so he reacts slow/misses a shot that he normally would have made.
Also, why can’t time travel create self-fulfilling prophecies? Perhaps this timeline would gone smoothly if the time travelers hadn’t come and their arrival has set this timeline to race along the same path.
I believe that’s the stuff time paradoxes are made of. Time travelers _had_ to come to the present _because_ things didn’t went smoothly on their present (our future). If things had gone smoothly the first time, there wouldn’t be any need of altering history
P.S. Shanna looks so metal in panel 3. I imagine her growling her dialog like a Death Metal vocalist. Actually, I think that dialog is the perfect chorus for a song
Or… Time travelers HAD to come to the present BECAUSE things didn’t go smoothly in their present (our future) BECAUSE time travelers came to the present BECAUSE…. etc. It’s not actually a paradox. It’s a completely closed causal loop that repeats unto infinity.
…Well, that’s one way to change the timestream.
Okay, it wasn’t a full-panel slap, but I did call the slap. Not that I’m entirely happy about it.
Given Shanna’s past phobia, it would probably be insensitive to point out how totally friggin CRAZY she looks here.
But damn. Byron, take notes: THIS is what a frothing berserker looks like.
I’d quote Michael Nesmith’s joke about the Navel Observatory, but I doubt anybody cares.
This is happening way too fast.
This is probably the future is so messed up. Am I the only person who can’t keep up with what’s going down?
Uh-oh. Wonder what protest they’re at?
Shanna is my favorite character now. 😀
And… if the whole point of travelling to the past is to change the timeline and to avoid the “bad day” this is a step in the right direction.
I’m worried about Will though…
I’d be pretty upset too, if time travellers from the future told me my spouse was going to die. She’s kneejerking, and Marc’s balls happen to be in the way of her knee.
I’m not sure what kind of music Will likes, but I bet he loved that percussion solo
In the last comic I thought she might be acting to see if Marc was the traitor. If she is acting here she should win an academy award.
I don’t think this will necessarily change the time-line, however. Lots of stuff can happen between now and then. Also, love and hate are both attractive emotions and her passionate response here shows she DOES have strong feelings for Marc.
Nicely done.
Am I the only one who’s encouraged by this?
I don’t think this incident changed the timeline AT ALL.
Part of me wonders if the intervention of the time-travellers coming back to stop their wrecked future is what CAUSES it in the first place. A sort of circular causal loop. These events would have happened differently without their intervention and they seem to be driving at least some people apart, not together.
Perhaps this causes the incident that Marc felt so guilty about it.
Despite what they show in the movies, this is the type of incident that destroys unit cohesion. In the military, people get sidelined for a lot of reasons that seems stupid to us until you realize that you don’t want the soldier who is supposed to be on Overwatch have only half his mind on his job because something has happened in their personal life. You also don’t want your officers to be excused for infractions that the soldiers under them to be punished.
In essence, you don’t want your soldiers to have any reason not to trust the other with their back or put disruptive thoughts/doubts in their mind, especially before a mission. That’s what makes them hesitate for that crucial second.
For someone who is trying to avoid that future, whether Hilda is manipulating her or not, Shanna is doing her best to sabotage Aegis. You don’t tell people that they’re under suspicion until you’re ready to act on it. You don’t pop people in the face for personal reasons and expect them to cover your back. And you DON”T visibly crack up in front of the rest of the team.
So, now their best fighter is distrustful of command, their best shooter is resentful, plus Di and Bax have got to be questioning her stability. I’m thinking she might want to just round out the act by setting everyone’s blasters to explode in their hands at this point.
@Bunny
No, the mechanics of time travel are firmly established in the Faansiverse. Traveling through time creates a new timeline. By those rules, traveling through time literally cannot create the circumstances that cause you to travel through time.
@Pyre
He doesn’t look guilty. He doesn’t even have the good sense to look abashed! He looks… belligerent. Like, “Hmph, I put myself out there and this is the response I get? B!*&h.” This is definitely a changed timeline now.
Stevarious, I have to disagree. We know travelling through time CAN cause a new timeline. That mean it HAS to. But yes, you’re right that the precedent is not established.
@Stevarious: No, I’m referring to the incident that the future people described him as feeling guilty about. Maybe this confrontation with Shanna causes him to be distracted in the upcoming encounter with The Hand of Justice so he reacts slow/misses a shot that he normally would have made.
Also, why can’t time travel create self-fulfilling prophecies? Perhaps this timeline would gone smoothly if the time travelers hadn’t come and their arrival has set this timeline to race along the same path.
@Pyre
I believe that’s the stuff time paradoxes are made of. Time travelers _had_ to come to the present _because_ things didn’t went smoothly on their present (our future). If things had gone smoothly the first time, there wouldn’t be any need of altering history
P.S. Shanna looks so metal in panel 3. I imagine her growling her dialog like a Death Metal vocalist. Actually, I think that dialog is the perfect chorus for a song
Or… Time travelers HAD to come to the present BECAUSE things didn’t go smoothly in their present (our future) BECAUSE time travelers came to the present BECAUSE…. etc. It’s not actually a paradox. It’s a completely closed causal loop that repeats unto infinity.